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Joe Rogan · 2024-12-12

Joe Rogan Experience #2242 - Bert Sorin

Strength-equipment maker Bert Sorin and Joe Rogan riff on training, archery, hunting, fighting greats, and free speech.

Joe Rogan Experience #2242 - Bert Sorin
The guest

Bert Sorin: Former world-class hammer thrower and president of Sorinex, the strength-equipment company that outfits Rogan's gym and the UFC Performance Institute.

What this episode covers

Bert Sorin brings his new Sorinex XOR rotational-power machine to the studio and the conversation opens on training innovation and the evolution of strength work in combat sports. Joe and Bert trade deep nerd talk on bowhunting gear, rangefinders, binoculars, and elk and big-game hunting. They explore the strongman and catch-wrestling history (Bill Kazmaier, Louie Simmons, Carl Gotch, Farmer Burns) and rank heavyweight boxing greats. The back half drifts into free speech, social media, the 2020 unrest, Elon buying Twitter, and the philosophy of choosing between being a 90-percent generalist and an all-in obsessive. They close on cooking wild game, carnivore eating, and hot sauces.

Recommended on this episode

ProductRecommended

Sorinex Franken Hyper

Sorinex

“I use like almost every day; it's such a good device”
“what I use like almost every day is that Franken hyper ... it's such a good device because you can do reverse hypers you can do back extensions”— Joe Rogan
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Half Face Blades knife

Half Face Blades (Andrew Arrabito)

“that one rules; he had one it was so good”
“I got Andy to make me a half face blade for me my dad and my two boys so they all matching”— Bert Sorin
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Leupold Full Draw 5 rangefinder

Leupold

“I don't go anywhere without that”
“the full draw five I don't go anywhere without that ... that is to me”— Joe Rogan
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Leupold RX-5000 rangefinder

Leupold

“that thing is badass; I love lold stuff”
“the RX 5000 yeah that thing is badass It's pretty dope so it does it syncs up with your onx hunt”— Joe Rogan
ProductRecommended

Swarovski NL Pure binoculars

Swarovski

“until you put through ... those NL Pures and you're like wow”
“until you put through the pick up those NL PES and you're like yeah ... I wish their glass was as good as swarovsk”— Joe Rogan
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Sig Sauer image-stabilizing binoculars

Sig Sauer

“I like the Sig so much; I started leaving mine at home”
“I started leaving mine at home because I like the Sig so much and they did the new HD so it has a better glass now”— Bert Sorin
BookRecommended

The Gray Man series

Mark Greaney

“I'm so addicted; those books man they are so crazy”
“the greyman series ... Mark grainy writes them they're so ultraviolent they're so crazy ... I'm so addicted”— Joe Rogan
BookRecommended

Jack Carr novels

Jack Carr

“I really just enjoy the books”
“I listen to Jack Carr stuff at regular speed cuz I really just enjoy the books”— Bert Sorin
ProductRecommended

Deep Glow underwater dock light

Deep Glow

“deep glow is the one; it's super easy to do”
“deep glow is the one yeah I'll send you the link for it it's super easy to do and mine kicks on right before dark”— Bert Sorin

The guest's own work

ProductBy the guest

Sorinex XOR (X-Factor) rotational power machine

Sorinex

“pull it up Jamie ... the idea that you could push and pull rotational power machine it really is a genius idea man”— Joe Rogan
ProductBy the guest

Senor Lluga x Bert Sorin hot sauce collaboration

Senor Lluga

“I actually have my own little collaboration that I did with Senor luga ... three different hot sauces”— Bert Sorin

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

ProductReferenced

onX Hunt app

onX

“when you range an animal with onx hunt so you arrange the animal and it puts a pin down where that animal is”— Joe Rogan
ProductReferenced

Vortex HD binoculars

Vortex

“Vortex makes awesome B HDX are until you put through the pick up those NL PES”— Joe Rogan
ProductReferenced

Nikon image-stabilizing rangefinder

Nikon

“Aaron Schnider turned me on to this Nikon a while back that was image stabilizing that was a game changer”— Joe Rogan
ProductReferenced

Hoyt RX-9 compound bow

Hoyt

“I just got that rx9 like last week ... I'm shooting 76 but I'm 30 and a half inches”— Bert Sorin
BookReferencedISBN verified

The Rise of Superman

Steven Kotler

“that book The Rise of Superman when you go in a flow State and like everything speeds up in your brain”— Bert Sorin
ProductReferenced

Auto Wild Grill infrared grill

Auto Wild Grill

“it runs on gas and you just slide it in there and it's like an overhead Grill what is it called Auto wild Grill that's it”— Joe Rogan
ProductReferenced

Traeger grill

Traeger

“I'd like to use the either Trager or the best way honestly if I have the time is I use an offset grill with actual hardwood”— Bert Sorin
ProductReferenced

Nosler ammunition

Nosler

“thankfully I know the guys at Nosler so they just sent me ammo which is nice”— Joe Rogan
ProductReferenced

Converse All Star (Chuck Taylor) shoes

Converse

“Converse Allstars a lot of guys lift with those because they'll be West Side guys ... Converse are good cuz they're flat”— Bert Sorin
ProductReferenced

Vivobarefoot shoes

Vivobarefoot

“I like a Vivo Barefoot like that but Converse are good cuz they're flat”— Joe Rogan

Big reveals from this episode

  • Joe details pulling his 84-90 lb bows up to 100 times a day, causing lower-back tendonitis he is rehabbing with NewFit EMS therapy.
  • Bert says he has been taking BPC-157 for eight years and is shocked strength professionals still don't know about it.
  • Aaron Rodgers' doctors told him not to do stem cells after his Achilles repair; he did them anyway and returned months early.
  • Joe recounts the Antonio Inoki vs Muhammad Ali fight where Inoki's grounded kicks gave Ali blood clots and infection that nearly required leg amputation.
  • Bert reveals a hammer-throw ankle injury caused a blood clot from knee to hip that doctors said should have killed him.
  • Bert's father was with Bill Kazmaier in 1980 at the Playboy Club for the silver-dollar deadlift of ~900 lbs.
  • Joe recalls a 40-year-ago house party where a punch sparked a house-wide brawl 'like World War Z.'

Worth remembering

  • The Scottish 'clach neart' (stone of strength) was a family stone; departing warriors piled theirs as a monument so survivors knew who never returned.
  • The 265 lb Inver Stone sits in an old lady's garden in Scotland and strongmen make pilgrimages to lift it and sign her book.
  • A study by strength coach Loren Landow found increased ground force from squats/deadlifts equated to roughly a 12% increase in punching power.
  • Alex Pereira worked in a tire shop and Francis Ngannou worked in a sand mine, building rotational and digging strength before fighting.
  • Cadaver-graft ACL reconstructions act as scaffolding the body re-proliferates, leaving the knee vulnerable until about the six-month mark.
  • Kamaru Usman has to walk backwards down stairs because his knees are so bad he can't get knee over toe.
  • Bert uses a Deep Glow green dock light that schools striped bass nightly, catching 4-15 lb fish in the first few casts.
  • Bert marinated his son's first-pig backstraps in Coca-Cola for 36 hours; he learned soda marinades break the meat down.
  • Tucker Carlson learned the government could access his Signal app; a government contact told Bert a state actor only needs your phone number.
  • Catch wrestler Farmer Burns built such a strong neck (on a 160 lb frame) that he performed hanging-by-the-neck stunts for crowds.