The guest
Shane Dorian: Professional big-wave surfer and avid bow hunter who has traveled the world surfing and hunting axis deer and elk.
What this episode covers
Shane Dorian joins Joe Rogan to talk through his intensive cord-blood stem cell treatment in Mexico and the strict no-inflammation recovery protocol it demands. The two dig deep into the carnivore diet, hunting wild game (elk and axis deer), and why bow hunting offers a high-pressure mental challenge similar to surfing giant waves. They cover the discipline and self-talk involved in making the perfect archery shot, including systems like Joel Turner's Shot IQ. The conversation widens into hormone replacement, concussions and brain treatment, the fentanyl/xylazine crisis, and a long critique of pharmaceutical companies, media capture, and processed food. Throughout, both emphasize how fortunate they are to live in an era of stem cells, TRT, and accessible health knowledge.
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Big reveals from this episode
- Shane underwent an intensive stem cell treatment at CPI in Mexico, dosing both shoulders, both knees, an elbow, and his lumbar and cervical spine, with 180 million cells injected plus 100 million via IV.
- The cord-blood 'hypoxic' stem cells stay active in the body for up to 12 months, forcing a strict protocol of no cold plunge, sauna, or anti-inflammatories for five to six weeks.
- Joe details his near-total carnivore diet, eating roughly 95% elk in a day, citing sharper cognition and flat, crash-free energy.
- Shane reveals a cluster of five bad surfing concussions led to mood decline and brain fog, which he has treated with an at-home brain-stimulation device, TRT, and EEG-based protocols.
- Joe cites Vioxx as killing an estimated 50,000 to 60,000 Americans, referencing author John Abramson on internal pharma emails.
- They discuss a major upswing in men in their 20s and 30s taking Viagra, tied to falling testosterone, microplastics, and endocrine disruptors.
Worth remembering
- Cadaver tendon grafts heal far faster (about six months) than patellar-tendon autografts because the body uses them as scaffolding and repopulates them with its own tissue.
- Surfers are surprisingly often deficient in vitamin D despite spending all day in the sun.
- A UCSF team led by Ying-Hui Fu identified short-sleep genes (starting with DEC2) explaining people who feel fully rested on four to six hours of sleep.
- Of about 150 hunters who came to Lanai after Rogan's crew, only one successfully bow-hunted an axis deer.
- Axis deer evolved to evade tigers and can duck a roughly 275-feet-per-second arrow at close range.
- The DEA reports xylazine ('tranq') mixed into fentanyl across 48 of 50 states, causing severe necrotic sores.
- Only two countries in the world, the US and New Zealand, allow pharmaceutical companies to advertise on TV.
- A study found that roughly 90% of people have glyphosate in their blood.
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