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Tim Ferriss · 2025-08-20

Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health — Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg

Stanford eye scientist Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg on why vision restoration, not just slowing eye disease, is about to arrive.

Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health — Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg
The guest

Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg: Stanford ophthalmologist and vision researcher specializing in glaucoma, optic nerve degeneration, and the science of restoring and enhancing sight; chair of Stanford Ophthalmology.

What this episode covers

Tim Ferriss talks with Stanford ophthalmologist Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg, recruited via a social post about presbyopia (age-related near-vision decline). They cover the basic anatomy of the eye and the spectrum from sick to normal to 'supra-normal' vision, including frame-rate-reducing goggles that train athletes' reflexes. Goldberg surveys the evidence on supplements (AREDS2, vitamin B3/nicotinamide), red and violet light therapy for mitochondria and myopia, pilocarpine-style pupil-constricting eye drops, dry-eye treatments, and serum tears. He explains glaucoma as the number-one cause of irreversible blindness, eye-pressure variability, cannabis's temporary pressure-lowering effect, and the surprising role of the innate immune system and gut microbiome in neurodegeneration. The big thesis: the long-held belief that lost vision can't be recovered is about to topple, with stem-cell and plasticity-based vision restoration moving into human trials within five years.

Recommended on this episode

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Preservative-free artificial tears

“we usually recommend at that stage switch over to preservative free artificial tears”
“we usually recommend at that stage switch over to preservative free artificial tears because it turns out that preservative in those bottles of drops at a lot of drops a day, the preservative is actually irritating”— Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

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AREDS 2 supplement

“for instance, I'm taking the A-Reds 2 supplement with luteine and various other ingredients in it. I would say it's probably not going to help”— Tim Ferriss
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AREDS 2 supplement

“aids too clinically proven if you have moderate age related macular degeneration to slow down your vision loss”— Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg
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Ketone monoester (exogenous ketones)

“I might be over ketoned. I have quite a bit of ketone monaster in me at the moment.”— Tim Ferriss
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Vitamin B3 (nicotinamide)

“the hottest topic in supplement vitamin space right now internationally is actually vitamin B3 nicotinomide which has really been linked to a number of good potential medical uses”— Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg
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CoQ10

“There are other supplements that have received some study that maybe suggest there isn't much going on there. Some patients take, you know, CoQ10”— Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg
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Ginkgo (GKO)

“Some patients take, you know, CoQ10, some patients take GKO. There's actually maybe the hottest topic in supplement vitamin space right now”— Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg
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Red light therapy device

“Should we have everybody buying one on the internet right now, hopping on Amazon, spending 25 bucks, spending three minutes a day? We don't have the data to support that.”— Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg
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Taurine

“with family with Alzheimer's and they might take something like theurin, which has on some level anti-inflammatory effects”— Tim Ferriss
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Cognito Therapeutics headset

Cognito Therapeutics

“Cognto therapeutics, it's a headset that is used and they have a lot of good data. I think they're either phase 2 or phase three. They've raised a ton of money”— Tim Ferriss

Big reveals from this episode

  • Glaucoma is the number one cause of irreversible blindness in the world, and the long-held rule that lost vision cannot be recovered is about to be overturned.
  • Goldberg predicts vision restoration at a totally unprecedented level, with stem-cell and plasticity science moving quickly into safe human clinical trials over the next few years.
  • Athletes can have supra-normal vision (e.g., 20/12), and frame-rate-reducing goggles that dim a fraction of cone refresh frames can train players to perform better at 100% vision after practicing at 60-90%.
  • There is foundational research showing a correlation between vision loss and cognitive decline, and restoring sight (even via simple cataract surgery) can reverse significant cognitive decline and depression in older adults.
  • In germ-free mice, raising eye pressure does NOT cause optic nerve degeneration; transplanting immune cells from a normal mouse triggers the damage, proving the innate immune system drives glaucoma.
  • Goldberg names vision restoration as the paradigm he expects to be overturned in five years, with the brain (cognition, Alzheimer's, spinal cord) likely to follow the eye.
  • Successful mitochondrial transplants are now being done (e.g., into embryos to prevent inherited mitochondrial disease), raising the prospect of transplanting mitochondria into the retina to stave off glaucoma.

Worth remembering

  • Around age 40 the lens stops compressing and reshaping to focus up close, causing presbyopia even when distance vision stays sharp.
  • Cones have a refresh rate of roughly 30 to 60 frames per second, similar to computer screens.
  • FDA-approved eye drops shrink the pupil toward a pinhole, normalizing incoming light and temporarily correcting refractive error without glasses.
  • About one third of the brain inside the skull is dedicated to processing vision, and the retina and optic nerve are developmentally an outgrowth of the brain.
  • A small daily dose of red light, and surprisingly also violet light at the opposite end of the spectrum, can slow myopia progression in teens and younger children.
  • Glaucoma is the most common neurodegenerative disease after Alzheimer's; baseline risk is about 2% but rises to ~20% with a first-degree relative who has it.
  • Cannabis (smoked or eaten) lowers eye pressure, but only while you are high, so Goldberg recommends an eye drop instead of being high 24/7.
  • Preservatives in artificial tear bottles are fine at a drop or two a day but become irritating and inflammatory to the ocular surface at higher frequency, so preservative-free strips are recommended.
  • All sunglasses and even clear prescription glasses block UV light, and car and house windows filter UV, so full-spectrum daylight indoors slows childhood myopia without needing UV.
  • ClinicalTrials.gov lets anyone search by disease for actively recruiting trials, and disease foundations plus Stanford Ophthalmology's site list vision restoration trials.