The guest
Duncan Trussell: Comedian, podcaster (Duncan Trussell Family Hour), longtime friend of Rogan and Comedy Store veteran
What this episode covers
A sprawling, stoned, three-hour conversation between Joe Rogan and Duncan Trussell wearing masks for the first stretch. They riff on AI inevitability, asteroid mining, robot dogs and battlefield weapons, then pivot to unions, war, the algorithmic manipulation of social media comments, and feral hogs. The back half goes deep on psychedelics as a force for planetary consciousness, the roots of Jesus and Christianity in psilocybin, Satanism (Duncan performed at a Church-of-Satan descendant's wedding), and fear versus love as the real meaning of the devil. They close imagining a future where neural implants let humanity communicate without language, ego, or war.
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Big reveals from this episode
- They discuss footage showing TikTok/Instagram serving different comments to a couple looking at the same video, framing algorithmic comment curation as deliberate division.
- Duncan recounts performing his demonic-possession bit at the wedding of Stanton LaVey, grandson of the Church of Satan founder, eating fried chicken and absinthe.
- Rogan lays out the theory that the 1970 scheduling of psychedelics was aimed at civil-rights and anti-war activists.
- They cite a Jerusalem university theory attributing Moses and the burning bush to a DMT-rich acacia bush.
- Duncan describes his wife reading hardcore BDSM 'booktok' romance, including a shark-researcher novel called Does It Hurt.
- The pair imagine the whole episode being an MK Ultra experiment overseen by Jolly West in a Harvard basement.
Worth remembering
- Joe verifies on air that Station Casinos' biggest UFC-union opponent in New York was found guilty of federal corruption charges.
- Texas has an estimated 2.6 million-plus feral hogs; they can breed at six months old, three litters a year.
- Civil-war-era ship cannons recoiled on wheels and ropes; standing in the path could rip a sailor's leg off.
- Student loans can technically be discharged in bankruptcy only if a judge finds 'undue hardship,' which almost never happens.
- Frank Herbert was a mycologist and reportedly lived on a boat next to Alan Watts in San Francisco.
- Isaac Asimov's Foundation is widely cited as inspiration for Star Wars, Dune, and Hitchhiker's Guide.
- Ken Kesey, author of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, was a subject in CIA LSD experiments.
- Iraq War-related deaths are estimated in the neighborhood of a million, with roughly 66,000 documented civilian deaths.
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