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Diary of a CEO · 2023-03-07

Seth Rogen Opens Up About His Self-Doubts & Struggles That Nobody Sees!

Seth Rogen opens up about self-doubt, critical reviews, his work ethic, choosing not to have kids, and his wife's mother's Alzheimer's.

Seth Rogen Opens Up About His Self-Doubts & Struggles That Nobody Sees!
The guest

Seth Rogen: Canadian writer, producer and actor behind Superbad, Pineapple Express, Knocked Up and The Boys; co-founder of cannabis brand Houseplant and Alzheimer's charity HFC.

What this episode covers

Seth Rogen traces his path from a low-income, eccentric, supportive Vancouver upbringing to writing Superbad with Evan Goldberg at 14 and starring in Freaks and Geeks at 16. He speaks candidly about years of unemployment, persistent self-doubt, and the personal devastation of critical reviews on films like The Green Hornet and The Interview. He explains that financial insecurity once drove his ambition but has faded, leaving pure creative drive as his motivation. Rogen also discusses his and his wife Lauren's decision not to have children, and the long, painful journey of caring for Lauren's mother Adele through early-onset Alzheimer's, which inspired their charity work.

The guest's own work

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Superbad

Seth Rogen & Evan Goldberg

“the first movie I wrote was super bad with Evan and it was very much informed by our high school experience it's largely based on real things that happened”— Seth Rogen
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Pineapple Express

Seth Rogen & Evan Goldberg

“that's probably when we wrote Pineapple Express you know so we had finished super bad no one wanted to make it”— Seth Rogen
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Freaks and Geeks

Judd Apatow

“16 years old you you get a part in Freaks and Geeks yeah and that brings you to LA with your family”— Steven Bartlett
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Undeclared

Judd Apatow

“we did freaky Geeks and we did a show called undoclare that was on Fox in 2000 2001 and then then I basically didn't work for like three years”— Seth Rogen
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The Green Hornet

Seth Rogen & Evan Goldberg

“is is Green Hornet where you've got you received some critical reviews for that can you zoom me if I was a fly on the wall”— Steven Bartlett
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The Interview

Seth Rogen & Evan Goldberg

“I honestly think things like the interview were more like painful as far as like people really taking joy and talking shit about it”— Seth Rogen
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Neighbors

Seth Rogen & Evan Goldberg

“the most tangible thing is the movie Neighbors which we've talked about in the past which is our most successful movie we've made”— Seth Rogen
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This Is the End

Seth Rogen & Evan Goldberg

“that's why we wrote super bad we were like let's write our favorite movie and it was the same thing with Pineapple Express this is the end and the boys”— Seth Rogen
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The Boys

Seth Rogen & Evan Goldberg

“this is the end and the boys was a comic book we loved we were like let's make this no one else is gonna let's make this into something”— Seth Rogen
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Sausage Party

Seth Rogen & Evan Goldberg

“the guys I do sausage party with I grew up with them the guy you know like the the the it like goes on and on”— Seth Rogen
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Houseplant

Seth Rogen

“you know Point gray which success house plant massive success that's in a different industry that's in you know the more entrepreneurial side”— Steven Bartlett

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

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Outliers

Malcolm Gladwell

“I read part of that Malcolm Gladwell book about the uh about you know the miraculous kind of set of circumstances that it takes to become like remotely successful”— Seth Rogen
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Seinfeld

Jerry Seinfeld

“at that time sitcoms were very popular Seinfeld things like that so I was like I was like the most practical path for me”— Seth Rogen
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SCTV

“Lauren Michaels is Canadian you know SCTV you know a lot of uh great uh some of the greatest means of all time are Canadian”— Seth Rogen
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The Diary of a CEO Conversation Cards

The Diary of a CEO

“you got swag called The Diary of SEO conversation cards you're going to be I've put 20 of them there's 60 of them in total”— Steven Bartlett

Big reveals from this episode

  • At 15 Rogen flew to audition for Just for Laughs but was bumped so Jerry Seinfeld could go up first, then bombed and didn't get in.
  • After his parents lost their jobs, 16-year-old Rogen became the family breadwinner via Freaks and Geeks, earning more in months than his dad had in a lifetime.
  • Following Freaks and Geeks and Undeclared he was essentially unemployed for about three years but never considered quitting.
  • He says his financial insecurity is gone, which is 'maybe why I don't make as many things as I used to.'
  • Rogen reveals he has enough money to never work again and live the same life until he dies.
  • He and his wife are increasingly certain they made the right choice not to have children, saying 'thank God we don't have children.'
  • Soon after he started dating Lauren in 2005, her mother showed first signs of early-onset Alzheimer's, launching a roughly 15-year journey.
  • Lauren's mother Adele died in 2020 after years unable to speak, walk, or eat.

Worth remembering

  • Rogen's father is a left-wing socialist from Newark who met his Vancouver-raised mother on a kibbutz in Israel.
  • His father has OCD tendencies and Tourette Syndrome, traits Rogen says he inherited to some degree.
  • Growing up, his family went to discounted Tuesday movie nights in Vancouver almost every week.
  • He and Evan Goldberg spent hours after school renting movies from a Blockbuster and a Canadian Rogers video store across the street.
  • Rogen argues nearly all creative people have self-doubt and those who don't are 'probably not very good.'
  • He credits his acting ability largely to understanding story from a writer's perspective rather than internal acting craft.
  • He cites Ian McKellen becoming famous around 60 (Magneto, Lord of the Rings) as proof of luck and persistence.
  • Rogen gets a daily schedule emailed by his assistant and admits he often has no idea what his next week holds.
  • His wife Lauren pitched the idea of a happy, mutually-liking married couple in Neighbors, which he credits for the film's success.
  • At a Vanity Fair Oscar party, all the comedians cluster together in one corner while other actors spread out.