Baroness Karren Brady on defiance, leadership, breaking into male-dominated football, and balancing a relentless career with marriage and family.

Karren Brady: British business executive, Baroness, vice-chair of West Ham United, star of The Apprentice; ran Birmingham City FC from age 23
Karren Brady tells Steven Bartlett how a lifelong streak of defiance and a clear set of core values (ambition, determination, integrity) propelled her from menial office work and radio ad sales into running a football club at 23. She describes closing the pivotal David Sullivan radio deal, persuading him to buy Birmingham City after spotting an ad in the Financial Times, and turning the club profitable. She discusses leadership versus management, building candid cultures, making tough personnel decisions without emotion, and battling sexism in football. The second half covers her decades-long marriage to ex-footballer Paul Peschisolido, candor and non-neediness in relationships, acts-of-service love, and her views on feminism, ambition, and contentment.
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