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Diary of a CEO · 2026-02-12

World No.1 Divorce Lawyer: If You Do This, Your Marriage Is Already Over.

Divorce lawyer James Sexton tells newly-engaged Steven Bartlett how marriages quietly die through 'slippage' and how to prevent it.

World No.1 Divorce Lawyer: If You Do This, Your Marriage Is Already Over.
The guest

James Sexton: A veteran New York divorce lawyer with 25 years of experience representing high-net-worth individuals, athletes and celebrities. He is the author of 'How to Stay in Love' and 'How Not to F*ck Up Your Marriage' and created the free trustedpetnup.com.

What this episode covers

Steven Bartlett, recently engaged, asks divorce lawyer James Sexton how not to ruin his marriage. Sexton argues that marriages rarely die from a single event but from 'slippage', the slow accumulation of small disconnections when one partner stops paying attention and the other slips down the priority list. He offers a concrete weekly ritual (telling your partner three things you love about them, three things they did that made you feel loved, and three things they could do better) and reframes relationships as a job worth doing performance reviews on. The conversation moves through attachment, masculinity and Sexton's own childhood with an alcoholic father, then into a detailed, prop-based explainer of prenups, community property and 'petnups.' It closes with Sexton describing a dream about his late mother that taught him to talk less and simply be present.

The guest's own work

BookBy the guest

How to Stay in Love

James Sexton

“How not to f*ck up your marriage, straight talk from a divorce lawyer who's seen it all, or how to stay in love? So, How to Stay in Love has been out longer.”— Steven Bartlett
BookBy the guest

How Not to F*ck Up Your Marriage: Straight Talk from a Divorce Lawyer Who's Seen It All

James Sexton

“Which of your books was more popular? How not to f*ck up your marriage, straight talk from a divorce lawyer who's seen it all, or how to stay in love?”— Steven Bartlett

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

BookReferencedISBN verified

The Power of Habit

Charles Duhigg

“if I walked into your home and on the table there was, you know, the power of habit by during or the seven habits of highly effective people”— James Sexton
BookReferencedISBN verified

The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People

Stephen R. Covey

“the power of habit by during or the seven habits of highly effective people, I would go, Oh, look at look at Stephen. He's still so successful.”— James Sexton
BookReferenced

Recovery: A Guide for Adult Children of Alcoholics

Herbert L. Gravitz and Julie D. Bowden

“I remember reading the book recovery, adult children of alcoholics, I stumbled on it when I was in college in a bookstore and I remember reading it and going, have they been reading my diary?”— James Sexton
BookReferencedISBN verified

The Prophet

Kahlil Gibran

“You know Cahel Gabbron in the prophet when he's talking about children he says that children are living arrows.”— James Sexton

Big reveals from this episode

  • Sexton says men get caught cheating more than women, but cheating is more terminal when women do it, usually signalling the relationship is already over.
  • He names the single most common reason women divorce good providers: they feel themselves slipping down the partner's priority list.
  • Introduces 'slippage', small disconnections that, like raindrops in a flood, accumulate into the marriage-ending complaint.
  • Argues people avoid intimacy rituals because of a fundamental terror that if their partner saw the real them, they wouldn't be loved.
  • Reveals his own friendly divorce and that his ex-wife told him he'd never love any woman as much as he loves the law.
  • Flatly recommends prenups, calling them the least profitable thing his firm does and 'a rule set' rather than a bet against love.
  • Breaks down crying recounting a dream of his late mother that taught him to stop talking and just be present with the people he loves.

Worth remembering

  • Sexton compares affairs to potato chips in the cabinet, you can control your food environment better than your brain when tired and lonely.
  • He reframes dating and marriage as a job: you nail the interview, get the role, then stop showing up for performance reviews.
  • Most women telling you a problem want to be heard, not fixed; men typically want solutions, so he advises offering a 'menu' of responses.
  • His proposed weekly ritual: tell your partner three things you love about them, three things they did that made you feel loved, three they could do better.
  • A prenup simply creates three buckets, yours, mine and ours, versus letting the state legislature write your rules by default.
  • In community-property states like California, co-mingled assets become fully divisible around the seven-year mark, which can spike divorces near that date.
  • A 'petnup' is a contract deciding custody, medical decisions and visitation for pets; Sexton built the free trustedpetnup.com donating proceeds to shelters.
  • Millennial and Gen Z divorce rates have plummeted (marrying later, cohabiting first) while 'gray divorce' for over-65s has tripled since 1990.
  • Sexton frames himself as the mechanic of marriage versus a new-car dealer, a divorce lawyer knows the predictable points of failure.