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Diary of a CEO · 2021-09-13

Moonpig Founder: How I Built A $150 Million Business WITHOUT Sacrifice: Nick Jenkins | E97

Moonpig founder Nick Jenkins on building a $150M business without the sacrifice, demons, or hustle-porn mythology of entrepreneurship.

Moonpig Founder: How I Built A $150 Million Business WITHOUT Sacrifice: Nick Jenkins | E97
The guest

Nick Jenkins: Former CEO and founder of Moonpig, the personalized online greeting-card company (now worth ~1.6 billion); Dragons' Den investor and former children's charity CEO.

What this episode covers

Nick Jenkins recounts how he built Moonpig over 11 years, surviving a brutal 2000-2005 stretch where shareholders told him to quit and he was nearly down to zero. He argues entrepreneurs are made not born, that success comes from being better at a thousand small details rather than inventing something unique, and that a viral, high-repeat product underpinned by lean statistical testing was the real engine. Jenkins pushes back hard on the hustle-porn narrative, insisting he had a great social life and never sacrificed relationships, and warns against founders juggling multiple startups. He reflects on selling the business, going into the charity sector, and redefining success as being a good human being rather than measuring only wealth.

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

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The Lean Startup

Eric Ries

“if you read that book the lean startup it kind of talks talks to some of those values about just trying to find find the simplest way to test the hypothesis as cheaply as you can”— Nick Jenkins
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NutriBullet

NutriBullet

“come downstairs quickly blend it together in my nutribullet drink it's 100 calories and then my next sort of main meal”— Steven Bartlett
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Shopify

Shopify

“you can set up a shop using shopify on your phone in a couple of minutes and sell you know you can even drop ship things”— Nick Jenkins

Big reveals from this episode

  • Jenkins reveals the difficult period 'lasted from 2000 to 2005' and at one point all his shareholders told him it would never work and to stop putting money in.
  • He had put about 150,000 pounds in at the start and by the end was 'pretty much down to zero,' having taken all equity out of his mortgage-free flat and all his savings.
  • The only thing that worked was the viral effect: every customer attracted about a third of another customer because Moonpig.com appeared on the card.
  • During one year they spent zero on marketing and customer acquisition yet sales still grew 30 percent.
  • He sold most of Moonpig in 2011, merged it with PhotoBox via venture capital, then sold out fully in 2016.
  • Moonpig was paying out ~10 million a year in dividends and ~30 million total before the sale, so the exit wasn't transformational.
  • After signing ~200 documents alone in a room, his post-sale celebration was cycling home and making a peanut butter and jam sandwich.
  • He admits he isn't sure Moonpig would have grown to 1.6 billion had he stayed at the helm, crediting later CEOs Stan and Nickyl.

Worth remembering

  • Jenkins used a statistics textbook from his MBA to calculate the least money needed for a statistically significant customer-acquisition answer (e.g. 2,500 vs 25,000 pounds).
  • Moonpig had around 20 competitors that came and went, and at the time held 65 percent of the market.
  • Before launching he approached an existing personalized-card company about investing, but it never turned over more than 300,000 a year and died about two years later.
  • Moonpig's only stock was cardboard and envelopes, representing roughly a quarter of a percent of turnover, with no inventory and 60-day supplier terms.
  • When hiring he favors people with straight A's because they understand the question and deliver predictably, balancing maverick CEOs.
  • During a printing-team illness he once worked 24 hours a day for three days to clear a backlog after returning from Australia.
  • He learned from fellow Dragon Deborah Meaden that supermarkets squeeze pioneer brands' margins once their products start selling well.
  • Jenkins drives a 'very tired old' Land Rover Discovery into the ground before buying an electric car, joking he's not chasing a Lamborghini.
  • He cites Bill Gates: by going into business rather than medicine, Gates affected millions of lives instead of a few.
  • His most boring early job was transcribing license details from one ledger to another at a Ford dealership, so painful he'd wish it were 5pm at 10am.