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Diary of a CEO · 2024-10-17

Trevor Noah: My Depression Was Linked To ADHD! Why I Left The Daily Show!

Trevor Noah opens up on his apartheid childhood, his mother's shooting, leaving The Daily Show, and how untreated ADHD fueled his depression.

Trevor Noah: My Depression Was Linked To ADHD! Why I Left The Daily Show!
The guest

Trevor Noah: South African comedian and former host of The Daily Show, born to a black mother and white father when interracial relationships were illegal under apartheid. Author of Born a Crime and host of the What Now podcast.

What this episode covers

Trevor Noah traces the 'dominoes' of his life from growing up mixed-race under apartheid, where he was legally a crime, through the domestic violence in his childhood home and his mother surviving being shot in the head. He explores the male loneliness epidemic, the lost art of connection, and why he believes friendship and community are the true measures of success. He explains how a late ADHD diagnosis revealed that his depression was ADHD-driven hyperfocus on meaninglessness, and shares his tools for breaking those mental loops. He details why he walked away from The Daily Show at its peak, the brutal early years of hate and death threats, and his philosophy on therapy, forgiveness, fame, and overcoming trauma.

Recommended on this episode

BookRecommendedISBN verified

The Boy, the Mole, the Fox and the Horse

Charlie Mackesy

“books that I loved”
“it follows in the tradition of the the boy the fox in the mall it's it's books that I loved you know the boy the F The Little Prince”— Trevor Noah
BookRecommended

The Little Prince

Antoine de Saint-Exupery

“books that I loved”
“it's books that I loved you know the boy the F The Little Prince you know there's so many books like that that I think ins spired me”— Trevor Noah

The guest's own work

BookBy the guestISBN verified

Born a Crime

Trevor Noah

“Trevor um these books are beautiful for so many different reasons Born a Crime is one of the most um it's so funny because it's not my story but it's everyone's story”— Steven Bartlett
BookBy the guestISBN verified

Into the Uncut Grass

Trevor Noah

“it comes out on the 8th of October it's called into the uncut grass and it's so wise powerful but beautiful”— Steven Bartlett

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

MediaReferenced

Call of Duty: Warzone

Activision

“I've I've made some of my best friends playing like war zone you know when like when the pandemic hits I was like God everyone was playing war zone”— Trevor Noah
MediaReferenced

Fortnite

Epic Games

“do you have money for a video game console no oh then you can't meet up with your friends on fortnite”— Trevor Noah
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Jurassic Park

Steven Spielberg

“like like Chris Pratt with those with those Raptors in Jurassic Park just find a way to like Snap and you know just pull attention”— Trevor Noah
MediaReferenced

Seinfeld

Jerry Seinfeld

“I look at like Seinfeld they were like all right it's done the network was like we can we can give you more”— Trevor Noah

Big reveals from this episode

  • Trevor's mother was shot point blank in the head by his stepfather Abel; Trevor grieved her as dead before learning she survived.
  • The bullet entered the back of her skull, missed the brain and spinal cord, deflected off her cheekbone and exited her nose; the doctor called it a miracle.
  • Abel did not go to prison; Trevor blames a justice system that doesn't treat violence against a partner the same as against a stranger.
  • By the 100th episode The Daily Show had lost 37% of its viewers and Trevor told a writer he wanted to quit.
  • He left The Daily Show at its peak simply because 'it was time,' realizing he had made work everything and connection secondary.
  • Diagnosed with ADHD only two years ago after a friend's diagnosis; as a child he was flagged as 'hyperactive' but his religious mother said 'we'll pray for him.'
  • Contrarian take on the 'Eraser Test': he WOULD erase his trauma, rejecting the idea that suffering should be celebrated for making you who you are.
  • Says he genuinely enjoys waiting in line and being anonymous; calls fame the curse that comes with his gift.

Worth remembering

  • Apartheid's architects studied the worst racial policies worldwide, including Australia's treatment of Aboriginal people, Nazi Germany, and the US.
  • His mother dressed as a maid in public so she could move through the streets with him without police suspicion.
  • In Trinidad they have a word, 'liming,' for spending time together with no purpose whatsoever, just being.
  • Men always need a 'third thing' (fishing, a game) to hang out, while women can connect directly without an activity.
  • A VIP theme-park visit with skip-the-line access felt depressing; they realized the hour-long queues were what bonded them as friends.
  • Cites Daniel Kahneman: the pain of losing a dollar equals the joy of finding three, explaining loss aversion that traps people.
  • Argues reading the news once a week leaves you as informed as reading daily, minus the anxious cycle of developing stories.
  • Trevor doesn't take ADHD medication; he says he needs to be erratic and unfocused for his comedy.
  • His grounding rule: before pontificating on the meaning of life, ask if you've slept, eaten well, moved your body, and breathed.
  • Inspired by kintsugi, the Japanese art of repairing pottery with gold so the cracks make the object more beautiful than before.