Dermalogica founder Jane Wurwand on building a skincare empire, the cost of relentless work, and confronting buried trauma through therapy.

Jane Wurwand: Scottish-born skin therapist and entrepreneur who co-founded the International Dermal Institute and Dermalogica with her husband Raymond, building it into a multi-hundred-million-dollar global skincare brand acquired by Unilever in 2015.
Jane Wurwand traces her path from a fatherless childhood in Edinburgh to emigrating to South Africa, then building two skincare businesses in Los Angeles from $14,000 of self-funding. She explains how building community among isolated skin therapists drove her success, alongside fierce attention to detail and a philosophy of decisiveness. She is candid about the personal costs: lost friendships, no work-life balance, and self-sabotaged relationships. A turning point came when a Santa Barbara mudslide destroyed her home, triggering insomnia and anxiety that finally led her to therapy and to unpacking decades of buried grief.
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